Philip Whincop 1801 - 1876
Going back : an Edward Whincop and Elizabeth had a daughter in Wissett Suffolk in 1742- IGI. Wissett is less than 10m W of Covehithe
1801. Philip Whincop born to Richard Whincop, a labourer, and Elizabeth Baldrey - no baptism found, IGI, FS, Ancestry or FMP, father's name known from 1851m.c - in Covehithe Suffolk. Actually only the 1851C states this Covehithe is S of Lowestoft, N of Southwold . Philip calls his 3rd son Richard in 1831
AGarwood Whincop & Phoebe Roberts, married 1796, had children baptised in Lowestoft in 1799 George, 1801 Phoebe, 1803 Jeremiah,. They would seem to be the parents of a Robert Whincop who had Robert Garwood Whincop baptised 1829 in Earsdon by North Shields, Northumberland .
So, with a father Richard - known from his 1851m.c. - then Robert Whincop serving in the Merchant navy in 1845 cannot be be Philip's brother,& Garwood Whincop & Phoebe Roberts are not his parents . The fact that Robert was up in Earsdon by North Shields, Northumberland in 1829, when Philip was also there, show that these 2 bits of circumstancial evidence are invalid!!.
1825. Philip Whincop marries Charlotte Patterson Newby in St Nicholas Great Yarmouth on 8/2/1825 - FMP & IGI. According to a Ray Whincup, they had 8 children
1825. Philip Newby Whincop was baptised 21/6/1825 in Yarmouth - IGI & Ancestry Quick birth!
1827 . Charlotte Newby Whincop was baptised 18/6/1825 in Gt. Yarmouth - IGI & Ancestry
1827-1829. Philip & Charlotte move north to Northumberland
1829 John Newby Whincop was baptised 19/10/1831 in Earsdon by North Shields, Northumberland - IGI & Ancestry - he married 1852.
1831. Richard Newby Whincop was baptised 22/10/1831 in Earsdon by North Shields, Northumberland - IGI & Ancestry. He became a master mariner, married 1857, and died 23/12/1905
1834. Elizabeth Newby Whincop born- she married 1853
1836. Benjamin Whincope baptised 20/6/1836 -FS - he married 1860
1838.James Newby Whincop born - he married 1869
1839. Philip Whincop is listed on the Norfolk Electoral Roll with a house, row 116 Gt Yarmouth
1841. Mary Ann Newby Whincop born- she married 1859.
1841C. Philip Whincop, 40, M.Mariner, b. Norfolk, is living with his wife, Charlotte, 35, and 7 children at Walls, St Nicholas, Gt Yarmouth
| Philip | Whincop | Male | 40 | 1801 | Norfolk, England | |
| Charlotte | Whincop | Female | 35 | 1806 | Norfolk, England | |
| Charlotte | Whincop | Female | 14 | 1827 | Norfolk, England | |
| John | Whincop | Male | - | 1829- | Norfolk, England | |
| Richard | Whincop | Male | 10 | 1831 | Norfolk, England | |
| Elizabeth | Whincop | Female | 7 | 1834 | Norfolk, England | |
| Benjamin | Whincop | Male | 6 | 1835 | Norfolk, England | |
| James | Whincop | Male | 3 | 1838- | Norfolk, England | |
| Mary A | Whincop | Female | 0 | 1841 | Norfolk, England |
I have added the names & figures in italics - original of the census very faded
1841-1844, A Merchant Navy & Maritime document - says he is 44 but little else! FMP
1844-1859. Philip Whincop is listed on the Norfolk Electoral Roll in Yarmoth, Walls 1844, South Quay 1848, ale house South Quay 1851 & 1852, South Quay 1857 & 1859
1845. Philip Whincop, 44, b. Covehithe: a Merchant Navy & Maritime document records his voyages for 1845 & 1846 - FMP. Also a document for a Robert Whincop - not a brother
1849 His wife, Charlotte Whincop, dies Yarmouth Jun 1849 . Philip seems to run an alehouse after her death for a couple of years
1850. Philip Whincopp, of St Georges Gate Yarmouth, is listed in an 1850 directory of the town
1851C. Philip Whincop, 50, victualler, widower, b. Covehithe, Suffolk, is living South Quay, Gt Yarmouth , Norfolk with 3 children
| Philip | Whincop | Head | Widower | Male | 50 | 1801 | Victualler | Covehithe, Suffolk, England | |
| Elizabeth | Whincop | Daughter | Unmarried | Female | 17 | 1834 | - | Yarmouth, Norfolk, England | |
| James | Whincop | Son | - | Male | 13 | 1838 | - | Yarmouth, Norfolk, England | |
| Mary A | Whincop | Daughter | - | Female | 10 | 1841 | - | Yarmouth, Norfolk, England |
The 1871C has him as blind then, and ,maybe, says! for 20 years, so maybe this is why he left the Merchant Navy before the age of 50 ?
1851. Philip Whincop, widower, mariner, full age, marries Maria Shimmon , full age, actually 32, on 16/6/1851 in an unnamed parish church by banns . Both addresses Heigham- part of Norwich .His father Richard Whincop, labourer , hers Robert Shimmon couch maker. Witnesses William Blagen? and Ann Miller Norwich Jun 1851
1852. Twins Ann Ulton & Maria Whincop were born Yarmouth Jun 1852 - info via Ray Whincup. Ann Uttin Whincop dies Yarmouth Dec 1852 , but no death of a Maria until 1861 and meanwhile another Maria was born Dec 1853 ? Could the original Maria 1852 now be called Louisa - Cannot find Louisa's birth - neither as Whincop nor as Shimmon! and mother Maria 1819 did have a sister Louisa 1826 . Where has the name Ulton/Uttin come from?? - one would think from his wife, Maria Shimmon, but then why not Shimmon, like the middle name Newby was given to all his children by his first wife . Maria's mother was Sarah Gibbs, so not even the grandmother's maiden name!!
1856. Philip Whincop is born Yarmouth 13/5/1856 to parents Philip Whincop, master mariner, and Maria
1858 Frederick Whincop born 25/5/1858 - various Ancestry websites!- he marries 1881
1860. Emma Jane Whincop born Yarmouth Jun 1860 . She was the 14th[ assuming twin Maria became Louisa!] and last child of 59 year old Philip Whincop
1861C Philip Whincop, 59, publican, b. Gt Yarmouth, - mistranslated as Whinsap on Bmd and as Whincup on Ancestry! -, 5, is living with his 2nd wife and 5 children at Gullen, South Quay St Nicholas Yarmouth
| Philip | Whinsap | Head | Married | Male | 59 | 1802 | Publican | Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England | |
| Maria | Whinsap | Wife | Married | Female | 42 | 1819 | - | Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England | |
| Louisa | Whinsap | Daughter | Unmarried | Female | 9 | 1852 | Scholar | Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England | |
| Maria | Whinsap | Daughter | Unmarried | Female | 7 | 1854 | Scholar | Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England | |
| Philip | Whinsap | Son | Unmarried | Male | 5 | 1856 | Scholar | Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England | |
| Frederick | Whinsap | Son | Unmarried | Male | 4 | 1857 | - | Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England | |
| Emma | Whinsap | Daughter | Unmarried | Female | 0 | 1861 | - | Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England | |
| Thomas | Cook | Boarder | Unmarried | Male | 52 | 1809 | Mariner Merchant Seaman | Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England | |
| William | Dayley | Boarder | Unmarried | Male | 22 | 1839 | Mariner Merchant Seaman | Norfolk, England | |
| Susan | Chase | Servant | Widow | Female | 55 | 1806 | Domestic Servant | Norfolk, England | |
| John | Lewy | Boarder | Unmarried | Male | 45 | 1816 | Painter | Norwich, Norfolk, England |
Cannot find Louisa's birth - neither as Whincop nor as Shimmon!
Maria 1853 marries 29/6/1872- Ray
1861. His second wife, Maria Whincop, dies Yarmouth Jun 1861, leaving him with 5 children under 10
1871C. Philip Whincop 70, widower, no occupation, blind [ 20 years?] ,born Yarmouth, is living with 3 of his children, Marai a silk winder, the 2 boys 'shop boys', as a lodger in Row, Gt Yarmouth
| Eliza | Wells | Wife | - | Female | 52 | 1819 | - | Suffolk, England | |
| Mary A | Boyce | Daughter | - | Female | 23 | 1848 | - | Suffolk, England | |
| Eliza | Boyce | Granddaughter | - | Female | 3 | 1868 | - | Norfolk, England | |
| Eleanor | England | Lodger | - | Female | 47 | 1824 | - | Norfolk, England | |
| Elizabeth | England | Lodger | - | Female | 17 | 1854 | - | Norfolk, England | |
| Philip | Whincop | Lodger | - | Male | 70 | 1801 | - | Norfolk, England | |
| Maria | Whincop | Daughter | - | Female | 17 | 1854 | - | Norfolk, England | |
| Philip | Whincop | Son | - | Male | 14 | 1857 | - | Norfolk, England | |
| Frederick | Whincop | Son | - | Male | 12 | 1859 | - | Norfolk, England |
What has happened to Louisa 1852 and Emma 1860? Former - maybe a servant ? Latter seemingly does not die 1861-1881 - seemingly marries in 1882, but an 1886 Norwich marriage - on Ancestry, - gives James Debenham Whincop as the father of this Emma Jane- must be the Emma J Whincop b.1853 Manchester . So, our Emma Jane Whincop remains unaccountable
Maria Whincop, 18, 1854 marries Henry T Housego, 21, on 29/6/1872 Yarmouth
1876, Philip Whincop 75, dies Yarmouth Mar 1876. Buried 24/3/1876 in Great Yarmouth- FMP. No probate found.
As this page is linked to both the ancestors of Anthony Hill and to those of Garry Whincop