Johann Friedrich Goebel 1844-1918

ABlake-Gaebel Ancestry tree) Dorothy Baker)
Please note the blue names in Census lists are NOT clickable!
I am aware of 2 different months of birth below- seemingly not too important!
FMP has virtually no Canadian records!
When Johann Fredrick Goebel was born on 7 November 1844 in Stryj, Lubelskie, Poland, ( ?? from ABlake tree!) his father, Jakob, was 36 and his mother, Margaretha, was 36. He married Elisabetha Barbara Paff and they had six children together. He then married Elizabeth Hollinger and they had 13 children together. He also had seven children from another relationship. He died on 14 February 1918 in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada, at the age of 73, and was buried there
When Johann Friedrich Göbel was born on 7 November 1844 in Brigidau #96, Galicia Austria, his father, Jakob, was 36 and his mother, Margaretha, was 36. He married Elisabetha Barbara Paff and they had six children together. He then married Elisabetha Hollinger and they had ten children together. He died on 14 February 1918 in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada, at the age of 73, and was buried there. -from Charlotte Simpson's Daun, Macks etc Ancestry tree
1844 Johann Friedrich Goebel was born 7/11/1844 in Brigidau #96, Galicia Austria OR to Jakob Goebel & Margaretha Heinrich
1869. Johann Friedrich Goebel married Elizabeth Paff in Galicia, Austria . 6 children reportedly born to this marriage
1870-1880 Johann Friedrich Goebel was widowed
1881. 2nd jan. Johann Friedrich Goebel married Elizabeth Hollinger, in Stryjski, Austria
1888. Johann Friedrich Goebel arrived in Ellis Island, New York on 23/5/1888
1891CC. Cannot find the family in the 1891CC. Maybe still in the US? but cannot find them there either
1892. Barbara Goebel was born to Johann Friedrich and his 2nd wife, Elizabeth . 12 other children reportedly born to this marriage
His naturalization, ~1896, would be useful
Children of Johann Goebel & Elizabeth Hollinger
1901CC .Frederick Gabel, 56, farmer, Lutheran, born 6/10/1844 in Austria, immigrated 1888, naturalized 1896, could write, was living in Alberta with his wife and 11 children - surname mistranscribed on FMP!
| Frederick | Grabel | Male | 1844 | Austria | Head |
| Elizabeth | Grabel | Female | 1860 | Austria | Wife |
| Elizabeth | Grabel | Female | 1878 | Austria | Daughter |
| Fredrick | Grabel | Male | 1882 | Austria | Son |
| Ludwig | Grabel | Male | 1883 | Austria | Son |
| Matthias | Grabel | Male | 1886 | Austria | Son |
| Margareta | Grabel | Female | 1888 | Manitoba | Daughter |
| Mary | Grabel | Female | 1890 | North West Territories | Daughter |
| Barbara | Grabel | Female | 1892 | North West Territories | Daughter |
| Henry | Grabel | Male | 1894 | North West Territories | Son |
| Johan | Grabel | Male | 1896 | North West Territories | Son |
| Wilhmina | Grabel | Female | 1898 | North West Territories | Daughter |
| Wilhelm | Grabel | Male | 1900 | North West Territories | Son |

Above original census entry on Ancestry has dofbs for all
I am in touch with Corolp on Ancestry whose aunt
Wilhelm/William Goebel 1900 was in Portland Oregon by the early 1950s and sponsored Fred Dey, his wife Freda Schlotthauer, (Willhem's niece, daughter of his 1892 sister Barbara)and their 2 daughters, Dorothy & Lorraine
Wilhelm 1900 is not with his parents in the 1911CC nor the 1916CC
He immigrated into the US in 1924 and his 2 children were born in Portland: William Frederick born 30/11/1925 and Marlin Raymond born 1/11/1927
He applied for US Naturalization in 1941- the form available on Ancestry . He was born 10/8/1900 in Spruce Grove Alta. He had blue eyes, light brown hair, was 5ft 7 in high,, 160 pounds and of German origin. In 1941 he was living 5730 NE 22nd St. Portland
1925. William Goebel married Inez Fish on 8/4/1925 in Vancouver, Clarke, Washington, USA , his parents Frederick J Goebel & Elizabeth Hollinger
Can only find one William G*bel, actually Goebel, aged 50, b. Canada, proprietor,nurse machine route??, living in Portland ( 22nd Street) in 1950USC and he is by himself, widowed
In 1940USC he is also on 22nd Street, aged 39, with wife Irene and children william F 14 and M
He was working for the American Can Company. and living at the same address, when he was drafted in 1942- draft card on Ancestry
he died 1966: buried Mount Calvary Cemetery, Portland. -picture of grave on Ancestry antel12

Aunt Mary (Goebel 1890) was also in Portland, Eleanor’s aunt/Granny’s (Barbara’s)sister - I believe she was the first one in that family who moved to Portland (when did she move there?)
When Dorothy & Lorraine moved away from staying with him, did they keep in touch? Do they remember his, by then, grown uo children, Frederick & Marlin??
Memories, memories, photos, photos PLEASE!!!
1902. His 2nd wife, Elizabeth Goebel, dies
1906CC .Fred S Gabel,, immigrated 1891, b. Germany?/Austria, was loving in Edmonton , owning 7 horses, 6 cows, 8 other bovine animals & 7 pigs - image available on Ancestry , A different date of immigration given here to that in the 1901CC
| Fred S Goebel | 60 |
|---|---|
| Madel Goebel | 19 |
| Mary Goebel | 16 |
| Barbra Goebel | 14 |
| Henry Goebel | 12 |
| John Goebel | 10 |
| William Goebel | 8 |
| Willie Goebel | 5 |
1911CC. Not yet found There is a Frederick Gabel , 64, , with Elizabeth 62, but NO children . so am sure this is not he
| Frederick Gabel | 64 |
| Elizabeth Gabel | 62 |
| Eucik Forberowski | 19 |
1916CC.Frederick Gabel, 68, Austrian, racial origin Galician, Lutheran, mother tongue German, living Portreeve, Maple Creek, Saskatchewan with, seemingly, a 3rd wife, also an Elizabeth, 2 older children plus 8 more aged 1-12, all seemingly born with the 3rd wife
| Frederick Gabel | 68 |
|---|---|
| Elizabeth Gabel | 66 |
| John Gabel | 38 |
| John J Massey | 38 |
| Robert A Stewart | 31 |
| Mary Gabel | 30 |
| Herbert A Publes | 28 |
| Robert H Miller | 27 |
| Samuel Spratt | 25 |
| William Allen Ivers | 24 |
| Nora Niles | 23 |
| Lizzie Gabel | 12 |
| Sophia Gabel | 10 |
| Lydia Gabel | 8 |
| Cecilia Gabel | 6 |
| Ed Scheick | 6 |
| Ella Gabel | 4 |
| Olga Agnes Gabel | 3 |
| Wilhelm Reinholt Gabel | 1 |
1918. Johann Friedrich Goebel, 72, dies . Buried in St Joachim Catholic Cemetery Edmonton - odd??

Courtesy of Schaffer2185, Ancestry