Margaret Buckley ~ 1830 - 1877

Searchingthe Irish Government site- https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ there are 3 baptisms possible of a Margaret to a John Buckley in Cork:

1. 20/3/1831 Margaret Buckley to John Buckley & Catherine Lynch Tracton Abbey

2. 20/5/1829 Margaret Buckley to John Buckley & Mary Taressy Cork South Parish

3. 8/12/1829 Margaret Buckley to John Buckley & Catherine Crowley Kilmurry, Moviddy, etc, etc

1852. 4/10/1852.Margaret Buckley, 22, marries David Tobin, 25, in St. George’s Catholic Church, St. George the Martyr, Southwark. Given as a carpenter, as is his deceased father, John.Tobin. Margaret’s father, John Buckley, also deceased, is a farmer. David's address is given as 12, Baker Street, hers as 5, Clarendon Place. He signed, she put her mark.Witnesses Catherine & Jeremiah Kellard. [Bernard Cullen, archivist 2009 at the cathedral, gives Rellard for the witnesses, but a BMD search confirms that it must be Kellard]. Could the Catherine Kellard be a married sister of David or Margaret?. Baker Street: this later maybe became the now extinct Elephant Road , Newington??: it was south of Kennington Oval, just N. of Vassall Rd., on a horizontal level on a map with Clarendon Place and about half a mile to its west. Clarendon Place: Cantire Place by 1929?, was just south of present Wyndham Road, locality of Councillor Street??, Camberwell?].

Have done a Census and a marriage search for the Kellards with no success. There is a Jeremiah Kellard, 48, b.Ireland in 1851C, wife Ellen, 30, also b. Ireland, Daniel, 13 b.Lambeth, living Lambeth. And same couple in 1861C, living Islington, 68 & 60, just gives Ireland for birthplace! And just Ellen Kellard, 70, widow, in 1871C, just b. Ireland! And a Catherine Kellard, 19, servant, b. Cork, living Lambeth - she could be a daughter of Jeremiah. But Jeremiah Kellard & family, different wife Honorah?, are in 1841C and no Catherine there. She likely marries Jun 1851, but, if she does, then she is not our 1852 witness!!, unless still using her maiden name. Catherine Kellard , 28, b.Ireland, a cook in Kensington in 1861C. Catherine Kellard vanishes 1861-1871, no marriage, no death.

And David & Margaret do not call any of their 3 daughters Catherine, so Margaret probably not related to the Catherine Buckley who married Stephen Lyons 1851..

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1854. Elizabeth Tobin born on 25/02/1854 and baptised 12/03/1854 in Our Lady of Salette, Melior Street, godparents James & Elizabeth Murray : I have seen the entry there. .’I thought the likely state registration might be Bridget, Jun 1854 St.Saviour 1d.34, but having got this b.c. it is not: Bridget, 22/5/1854, is the daughter of a Michael & Julia[ nee Brisinh??] Tobin of 47 Ewer St.,Southwark. . [Elizabeth Margaret Tobin 1855 Dec’, ref.1d.22.St. Saviour is also not her - her parents are Thomas & Margaret [nee Welch] Tobin of 7 Gt. Guildford Street Southwark]]. So feel that David & Margaret Tobin forgot to register her. Searched for the Murrays 1851 & 1861Cs - far too many! but a James 37, labourer, & Elizabeth Murray 36 at 22 Queen Elizabeth St in 1861C, both born Surrey

1856. Mary Tobin born 20/04/1856, and baptised 18/05/1856 in Our Lady of Salette, Melior Street, godparents David Shea & Mary Tobin. State registration Jun 1856 , St.Olave S 1d.48 - guess! as to the 48. Speculation: the only Mary Tobin, godmother, would seem to be the 27 yr old wife of a Michael Tobin in 1861C. In 1871C he[Michel] is said to come from Killarney, she from Dublin. But then in 1881C, he[ now known as Martin!] from Kilkenney, she from Dublin. Their first [ of at least 9] child was born Dec 1857, so a chance that they[as Michael Tobin & Mary Ann Dempsey?] married in Jun 1856 in Clerkenwell: I had thought that he could be a brother of David, but this m.c.[filed] gives him as 22,[ b.~ 1834] , the son of a Thomas Tobin, deceased, farmer. I suppose they could be cousins, and that Thomas and John were brothers?

1859. John Tobin born 30/04/1859, baptised 8/05/1859, Our Lady of Salette, godparents Patrick & Margaret Sculley.: [registered as John Torbin, Bermondsey 1d111 Jun1859 & there is a death in St. Olave in 1863]. In 1861C a Patrick, 24, & Margaret Scully, 45/16, mother & daughter, all b. Ireland in St Olaves,

1860. Mary Tobin dies Jun/ Sep 1860 St.Olave , 1b 27 / 1d 47. Aged about 4.

1861 Census. David Jobin, 28, carpenter, was living at 9, Victoria Cott [no longer exists: Cott. stands for cottages, and I think Our Salette priest said they were in Snowsfield, very close to his church], St. Olave, Southwark with his wife, Margaret, & 2 children . Recorded under name of Jobin.!

  age  
David Jobin 28 Carpenter b. Ireland, Cork.
Margaret 27 wife b. Ireland, Cork.
Eliza 7 daut. b. St. Olaves
John 2 son b. Bermondsey

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1863 John Tobin dies St. Olave Sep 1d 42. Aged about 4.

1864. Margaret Tobin born, 9/1/1864 [ Descendant Nicola- Genes Reunited - has b.c.] St. Olaves. ‘Mar’, ref. 1d.43. - Baptism not at La Salette nor St.Georges RCC.

1867. David Tobin born, St. Olaves,’Dec’, ref. 1d.40 .- Baptism not at La Salette nor St.Georges RCC. - Have asked Dockhead 2012 - but no reply

Thus 5 children born 1854-1867, of whom 3 survived.

1871C. . His wife, Margaret Tobin, 40, b. Kilnakle?, and 2 children were living at 18, Queen Elizabeth St., St. John, Southwark. Where is he?

  age  
Margaret Tobin 40 wife married b. Ireland, Kilnakle
Margaret 9 b. St. Johns
David 4 b. St. Johns

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If Margaret had been born May-Sep 1831, then her age at marriage would have been 21

Think the Censor must have omitted David from his list, as entry for Margaret gives wife, but would have stated Head, had he not been present. Their daughter, Elizabeth Tobin,17, is found as a general servant, living in Borough [a Southwark area]..
Kilnakle doesnot exist. Should it read Kilmichael?

1876. Daughter, Elizabeth Tobin, marries Timothy Lyons. David Tobin is given as carpenter on the m.c. and seemingly alive still.

1877. Margaret Tobin, dies, aged 44, 30/10/1877 of Cancer at 8, Black Swan Yard, Bermondsey. Buried in St. Patrick's Catholic Cemetery, 3/11/1877, body brought from Black Swan Yard, which is where her daughter Elizabeth Lyons was living with her family in 1878.

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Thus seems that Timothy & Elizabeth Lyons were sharing accomodation with David & Margaret Tobin, probably from the time they married in 1876.

1880. David Tobin, carpenter, dies, aged 49, 26/12/1880, at The St. Olaves Union Infirmary. Cause of death Phthisis Pulmonalis. Informant Elizabeth Lyons, daughter, in attendance, 1 Swan Mead, Bermondsey. Buried 1/1/1881 in St. Patrick's Catholic Cemetery Leytonstone, body brought from Swan Mead.

 

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