Margaret Maile 1780 -1866

1780. Margaret Maile was baptised on 1/10/1780 to Richard & Margaret Maile, address Crown Alley, in St Leonard Hackney : this very close to St Lukes , where censuses say she was born . .

Richard Maile had married Margaret Small on 30/1/1780 in St Leonard Shoreditch -Ancestry

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1805. Margaret Male married  Charles Andrews on 17/9/1805 in St. Marys Newington.

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m.c. of Charles Andrews in St. Marys Newington 1805

1807. Frances Charlotte Elizabeth Andrews was baptised 15/4/1807( born Sep 1806) to Charles & Margaret in St. Marys Newington.- Ancestry London C of E Baptisms 1538-1812 . She married John Bath in 1827, and M.Male( maybe an uncle or cousin) was a witness!

1821. Son Charles Andrews born 22/02/1821 to Charles & Margaret. Baptised 20/01/1822 , St. George The Martyr, Southwark. Their address Prospect Place, St Georges Road. An Anglican church. - IGI & Ancestry London Parish Records, 1813 onwards.

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Although he was baptised in St. George the Martyr, St. Marys Newington was not that far from Prospect Place/St. Georges Road.

No sibling baptisms on the IGI reel, but only seems to start in 1820.[ 6 other Andrews having children baptised in St.George 1818-1828, a Benjamin, Thomas, James, Richard, Abraham & William, from IGI, and I actually found a Jane 1818 & a John 1821, both baptised to Richard & Susannah Andrews, he a milkman, of Green Street: X092/033]. None on London Parish Records, 1813 onwards, either . This is the same church, where the parents of the future wife, Elizabeth Richards, of Charles Andrews ,1821, got married in Dec 1820. Thus the Andrews and the Richards were probably acquaintances, if not friends. I found Charles' baptism entry on X092/033 [LMA, August 2009] the family living at Prospect Place, St.Georges Field, father carpenter.. No godparents were named

Survey of London -Southwark.pub. 1950 editors-Sr.Howard Roberts & Walter H. Godfrey
St. George's Fields enclosure & development. The formation of Waterloo & Southwark Bridge Roads altered the configuration of the ------
This & the adjoining Terraces were originally known as Prospect Place [There was a lot of reading, I just skimmed - from Googling. ]


Were there any other children between 1807 & 1821? There is a Jane Andrews, '20' [that is 20-24] in 1841C, living as a servant to a Sarah Wilkinson in 31 Prospect Place [info. from B.Balfe ,but Census entry shown below]. So, she must have been born 1817-1821. Searched for her baptism on St. Georges fiche 1817-1820: there was a Jane baptised 23/01/1818 but to Richard & Susannah, as mentioned above. So, feel Charles might not have had a sister Jane, although Prospect Place is a link! Have also searched the London Parish Records on Ancestry and no other baptisms to Charles & Margaret after 1813, the year the site starts.. For the 2 Jane Andrews marriages: Sep 1845 Camberwell 4 28 & Jun 1846 Lambeth 4 279 , neither of them has father Charles- nor Richard.! And I cannot find her still single in 1851C, b. Southwark. So think Jane is a red herring!

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61 St Georges Rd, Southwark

1841 Census. Charles Andrews, 60, carpenter, was living at 61, St. George’s Rd., Southwark with his wife, Margaret, son & daughter-in-law

  age  
Charles  Andrews  60  Carpenter    not born Surrey
Margaret    60       not born Surrey
Charles     20   Carpenter     b. Surrey
Elizabeth        20        b. Surrey

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1844, 1848 & 1849. Charles Andrews was listed in the Post Office Directory as a Builder, 61 St. George's Road.

1851 Census. Charles Andrews, 71,"Carpenter Mas.[ter] employing 2 join" was living in St. Georges Road, Southwark with his wife, Margaret

  age  
Charles  Andrews    71   Carpenter Mas.,employing 2 Join?  b. Limington, Dorsetshire
Margaret  71    b. Mddx St. Lukes
& 2 lodgers.    

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1858, 1863 & even 1865! Charles Andrews is down in the PO Directory as Carpenter, 61 St. George's Road.

1861 Census. Charles Andrews, 81, carpenter, was living at 61, St. Georges Road, Southwark with his wife, Margaret .

  age  
Charles Andrews    81  Carpenter   b. Dorset, Leigh?
Margaret  80  b. Mddx, St. Lukes
Elizabeth  39  daut.-in-law  Toy maker b. Lambeth  [her husband & other children in Worth,Sussex]
Charles  19  grandson    Toy maker   b. Southwark
And 2 lodgers.    

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His son Charles,1821, is meanwhile a joiner in Worth, Sussex, with the rest of his 5 children.

1862. His grandson , Charles, marries, his address still given as St. Georges Road.

1863. Charles Andrews dies, aged ~84, Dec, St. George Southwark, 1d.128,    22/10/1863 , aged '85' at 61 St. Georges Road... Died from a fit- maybe a stroke. Certificate seems to say ' Shock to his nervous system by a fall whilst in a fit, immediatetely'. Then says 'Information received from William Payne, coroner for London and Southwark. Inquest held 22nd October 1863' - the same day as the death.. I could maybe get this inquest in the LMA - unusual for an inquest to be held on an 85yr old! . So, maybe it was after this that son Charles returned from Worth to create a family home where his mother could be looked after. No Probate record exists. Nothing on FMP Newspapers . He was not buried at Nunhead nor in Camberwell cemeteries. .  

1866. Widow, Margaret, dies, aged 86, on 26/11/1866. She died of 'decay of nature', at 2 Union Street, Southwark, her granddaughter, Frances Rebecca Andrews , only 17 at the time, was the informant on the d.c. Interestingly, Margaret's dead husband Charles is described as an undertaker as well as a carpenter. Seems as if Margaret moved in with her son's family after the 1863 death of her husband. [Union Street was just opposite 61 St. Georges Road, the parallel and neighbouring street running N/S to Garden Row where son Charles 1821 and family were living 1846-1851 at least]. - St. George Southwark Dec 1d.127. No Probate . No burial on Ancestry London Burials

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Image of d.c from B.Balfe

Margaret Andrews, 86, was buried in City of London & Tower Hamlets Cemetery on 4/12/1886, address Union Street, Southwark - Ancestry, image available

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